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Modeling Scams


Face National Models and Talent


To Whom It May Concern:

I went to a FACE Models meeting earlier this evening.

First there was an initial screening. I was asked back for a presentation later that evening.

At this presentation they explained themselves, and what they expect, and what to expect.

They told everyone there that they were only hiring 23 more people.

This is the only part that seems suspicious to me —it seems you would hire whoever met the criteria you were looking for. Were they going to hire 60 people total even if only non-model people showed up?

So everyone there was given a phone number to call back the next day, and get their verdict.

They did say that anyone contracted would need composite cards, and therefore a photo shoot with a high-fashion photographer. This was obviously something that would cost some money.

They said they will be flying in their own photographers in May for six days, and that if needed 40 people would be able to use them. Only 40 because that was all the time they had.

Otherwise you would need to use the local photographer (apparently there is only one in my city), or go to Seattle.

Also they said we would need professional hair and make-up artists for the photo shoot. I understood that this should be provided in the rate of the shoot, and also we would need to own the copyright to the photos.

Everything seemed up front and legit to me.

I came home to check out the website. It didn't come up, so I did a search, and your site was the first one I looked at. I am glad I did.

I don't necessarily think it is a scam, but I am glad to know to be a little more cautious.

Anyhow, after a little more work, I found a link to the website that works. So they do have one. It is the only thing that made me really skeptical.

Go to: http://www.facemodels.com/

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What is it about their website that made you really skeptical? Please elaborate.

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The only thing that made me skeptical was that it didn't come up with the web address provided.

Once I did a little 'footwork' and found it, I felt better about it.

I met with them today and signed a non-exclusive contract with them. In the contract it plainly states there is no guarantee of work.

They claim, though, that 73% of their models are working, and those not working turn down jobs.

The whole experience seemed very no-nonsense.

The only angle I can see on this would be to contract a bunch of people and then try and make money on a photo shoot. But that does seem unlikely to me at this point.

I will certainly keep you updated as per my experience and would appreciate any feedback you might have.

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You wrote: "The only thing that made me skeptical was that it didn't come up with the web address provided."

What website address did they provide?

Speaking of their website, did you see any references on the website to companies with which models got work, e.g., model's name, stats, resume, company? Or are they all just pictures?

The difference between a modeling photo and a modeling portfolio is the portfolio has tear sheets, etc., work done for companies. A photo which is not a tear sheet could simply be a model who never got any work.

Companies do look for fresh faces, but they also like models with experience. Tear sheets are the proof of experience. If Face National Models and Talent has models with experience, and they are promoting them online, why don't they use tear sheets?

Furthermore, since tear sheets bring credibility to a company in the eyes of aspiring models, because they are perhaps the strongest evidence they get models print work, why aren't there any tear sheets?

(I didn't see any; if you see them, please send the links.)

You made a good observation earlier about the quota Face National Models and Talent set: "They told everyone there that they were only hiring 23 more people."

It seems to support earlier complaints and the contention they are a modeling photography mill.

You would be well advised to continue your research in three specific areas:

1. Check their rating and complaints at the Better Business Bureau.
2. Get proof of their success rate claim.
3. Get the name(s) of the photographer(s) they use and their website address(es), and then determine if they have been published in magazines (tear sheets), and produce professional quality work.

If you want to be even more conscientious, find out what percentage of their models do print work, and what percentage do promotional work. There can be a huge difference in earnings. Also get a clear idea of the amount of work their models get. You want to know the quality and quantity.

The bottom line is it will be helpful so you can determine your chances of making more money through modeling than you spend on photos.

The complaints in the past have been Face National Models and Talent do not respond to complaints. Apparently they do not have offices outside of their state and office in Charlotte, North Carolina, listed in the file of the Better Business Bureau.

If that is the case and you are in Washington (you mentioned Seattle), all the way over on the other side of the country, thousands of miles away, how do you feel about being represented by a company so far away? If they change their contact numbers, etc., what will you do?

The other complaints were about the quality of the photography. Find out if they have a guarantee on the quality of the photography. If they don't but their photographer takes rushed or poor pictures, you will still have to pay.

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